El día 7 de Febrero vamos al Teatro Pavón a ver esta obra clásica. Please post any information about it.
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El día 7 de Febrero vamos al Teatro Pavón a ver esta obra clásica. Please post any information about it.
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There are 102 of us going,so it is a very popular play have you heard or read anything about it? Please let us know whatever about it
Do you know that the manuscript "Las bizarrías de Belisa" is in The British Museum of London? This is the first play of the Young National Company of Classic Theatre and the play takes place in the 20s.
No we didn´t a very interesting comment thanks
Well I have enjoyed the play very much,in spite of not being in favour of those modern changes that are often to the detriment of the text which is, as was the case in this play, very nice. The actors were quite good, the only one I didn´t really like was D.Juan, but the Count was funny and he managed to make a very stupid count.The servants, specially Tello, were great. The ladies were solid, succeding in transmitting both comicity and seriousness. I never expected it to be such fun, although there were parts that I found deficient, the music was nice and it helped portray the Count´s stupidity. There was dynamism which is not often seen in Spanish plays,the movement on stage was also good in my opinion. Worth seeing that´s my veredict!
diculpad que haga el comentario en español pero es muy tarde, estoy muy cansada y tengo muchisimo trabajo atrasado. Gracias.
La obra no me ha gustado absolutamente nada. No he encontrado un solo punto a favor en ninguno de los aspectos.
1ª Cuando quiero ver un bodevil voy a ver un bodevil, cuando voy a ver a Lope, quiero ver teatro clásico, no una "pachanga", tampoco un bodevil. Si quisiera ver teatro moderno no habría ido a ver una obra de teatro clásico. Me ha parecido una falta de respeto, tanto a la memoria de Don Félix como a mi inteligencia. ¿Acaso piensan estos "intelectuales" que no somos capaces de disfrutar, entender y apreciar una obra clásica tal y como fué originalmente escrita y escenificada?.
los decorados consisten en las sillas del comedor de mi abuela. El vestuario, de Caprile, precioso para un desfile de Cibeles, pero no entiendo que relación guardan en un escenario un caballero del XII, otro de principios del XIX, una señora de la "Belle epoque" y un señor de los "locos años 20". Si lo que se pretendía es significar que la obra, o la trama, o el texto es atemporal, no lo consiguen. Los bellísimos versos de Lope suenan "quasi" ridiculos y trasnochados en medio de semejante parafernalia.
¡Santo Dios, les han puesto un fox-trot como música de fondo!
Los actores no recitan: ¡gritan!.
la musica no suena: ¡atruena!
Y lo peor de todo, se realizan sonidos y ejecutan escenas para representar un coche de caballos u otras cosas. En un momento escennifican detrás de la protagonista y envueltos en la sombra el monologo que ella recita. O te centras en la belleza de las palabras y en la interpretación de la actriz, o miras a los que escenifican, resulta imposible concentrarse en las dos cosas, y esto pasa todo el tiempo. Demasiado "ruido" que distrae. Lope casi desaparece, su ritmo, su verso, su idea...es casi imposible apreciarlos en su auténtico esplendor.
Por cierto,leed el siguiente soneto y decidme si no es bello.
Canta con dulce voz en verde rama
Filomena dulcísima al aurora,
y en viendo el ruiseñor que le enamora,
con recíproco amor el nido enrama.
Su tierno amante por la selva llama
cándida tortolilla arrulladora,
que si el galán el ser amado ignora,
no tiene acción contra su amor la dama,
No de otra suerte al dueño de mis penas
llamé con dulce voz en las floridas
selvas de amor, que oyendo el canto apenas,
se vino a mí, las alas extendidas,
porque también hay voces filomenas
que rinden almas y enamoran vidas.
Ahora probad a recitarlo en voz alta acompañados de 5 ó 6 miembros de vuestra familia o amigos que repitan como un mantra "rruu, rruu, rruu" Si no sentís ganas de llorar id al terapeuta.
Pobre Don Félix Lope de vega Carpio, sacerdote, y digo lo de sacerdote porque no se que habría opinado de los "innumerables " y "promiscuos" besos de esta versión. ¿pero que ha hecho él para merecer esto?
¿Y que hemos hecho nosotros que, además, hemos pagado?
Gracias por vuestra atención, perdón por el sarcasmo y que no tengais pesadillas esta noche.
Besitos a todos.
Oh my God! What was that?
I didn’t like at all, with all my respects for the actors and actresses and for all the people who liked it.
I hadn’t prepared my mind to assimilate that mixture between a classical play and a musical one. Too modern for me.
And, what about Count Enrique? Perhaps the inspiration of this performance was our dear “Pocholo”. I never saw anything like that, and probably I will never forget it.
Good for Tello.
María Luisa
There are things that I don’t like, as D. Juan and perhaps as the outlandish Count Enrique, but in general I enjoyed the play. I don’t mind if a classic play is performed like modern play. There are plays in modern version like Romeo and Juliet or Rigoletto by Verdi that they were wonderful.
In spite of the bad reviews of my class mates, I enjoyed the play! Al least, I liked it more than 'Del rey abajo ninguno'. Yesterday, the play defied my imagination,it surprised me, and it is always good! Don´t you think so? I associated Pavón with clasical or baroque works of Spanish theatre, but Eduardo Velasco is out of the ordinary: the music, the grand piano, the chairs, Caprile's wonderful dresses... But the verses were the verses of Lope. Sorry, Paloma, but, from my humble point of view, I don´t agree with you...
Viendo "Las bizarrías de Belisa" uno siente cómo su autor, ya en el ocaso de su existencia, nos presenta el amor como centro de la vida, con unos personajes y unas situaciones de enredo que están en casi toda su producción literaria.
Eduardo Vasco hace una versión de la obra con entusiasmo, con mimo, deleitándose en cada verso. Actualiza el lenguaje sin que al espectador más tradicional le dañe su sensibilidad; se entiende todo lo que por boca de los actores quieren expresar los hombres y mujeres de la comedia. Se nota que Eduardo Vasco es un “lopista”, como nos dice en el programa de mano, donde nos hace una semblanza de Lope de Vega y su obra.
La dirección y el montaje del propio Eduardo Vasco me parecieron impecables, hay ritmo y musicalidad durante toda la representación; el piano colocado en el centro del escenario, perfectamente manejado por Ángel Galán, ayudaba a resaltar el amor que en distintos momentos de la obra fluye de los personajes. El coche de caballos, con cochero y pasajeros, lo encontré divertido y muy adecuado; los cantables muy en consonancia con cada momento; la indicación de los lugares en que se va desarrollando la acción, hecha por una actriz, es rescatada de los inicios de nuestro teatro –allá por el siglo XVI, cuando uno de los actores aparecía por el lateral del escenario y, dirigiéndose al público, decía: “Ya estamos en el castillo, o en la iglesia, o en la gruta”-. El vestuario me gustó mucho, con predominio del oscuro en los caballeros que resaltaba los colores claros de las damas.
La interpretación del conjunto de la compañía me pareció excelente: con una dicción perfecta y la entonación precisa en cada verso, supo transmitirnos todo lo que el poeta había escrito. Del personaje del Conde Enrique, interpretado por David Boceta, me gustó la creación que de él hizo el actor, sus movimientos y forma de decir el verso un tanto chulesco-castizo madrileño. Eva Rufo en el papel de Belisa, estupenda de voz y perfecta en el verso, supo recrear su personaje en situaciones muy dispares: unas de una cierta comicidad, otras de desesperación y otras de una tierna enamorada. Javier Lara, un D. Juan lleno de galanura; Alejandro Saá puso en Tello toda la gracia que requería, como así mismo Rebeca Hernando en Finea; y el resto de la compañía muy a tono en la interpretación de sus respectivos papeles, sin olvidarnos del piano de Ángel Galán. Pasé dos horas disfrutando de los acontecimientos que se iban desarrollando sobre el escenario
A los fuertes y continuos aplausos que se escucharon al finalizar la representación, quiero unir mi felicitación para la Compañía Nacional de Teatro Clásico que hace que nuestros clásicos sigan estando vivos.
Hermy y Jaime Vázquez
I really liked the play.it was everything in old spanish.sometimes it was a little bit scaring but i had real fun.in my oppinion all the characters were funny.one of the things i liked the most was that mix between musical comedy and classical theater (the Count as Fred Astaire).I also liked capriles' designs for this play.
The plot is typical of Lope de Vega.Don't miss it
Obviously there's no accounting for taste.
Wow!I really enjoyed those comments! Hermi and Jaime´s wonderful as usual, you really put in words what we see. I couldn´t agree more I also liked the play very much. Paloma you defend your point very well, the sonnet is beautiful and what you say about the "ruu ruu" is not only demolishing but also true. I hadn´t seen it in that light but after your comment I couldn´t agree more, they distroyed the beauty of the verse. However I liked the play, I enjoyed it, maybe a bit of the beauty was lost but the commicity was successfully put across, and on the whole it was well-balanced. "Hope" a very good comment, you have communicated yourself very well. Well done everybody and thanks, it´s such fun reading this....
Cristina now I realise it is you!!! I agree with what yousay thanks for posting
Imagine you are very fond of Gothic art especially the French one because you think it’s the purest one. Finally, after a long time trying it, you get to travel to Paris to se Notre Dame, particularly you want admire de stained glass windows.
Imagine that the first think you hear when you enter the cathedral is rock music. After that you realised that the whole place is decorated with paintings from Warhol and the most beautiful window is surrounded by pieces of simple glass from ordinary bottles. What would you have thought?
Perhaps you would say Warhol is not the right person to decorate a Cathedral. He’s great to a modern building or to be in a Museum of Modern Art, but not in Notre Dame. The same could be said for the music. You usually don’t expect to listen to Rock and Roll in a church like that.
If someone tells you that the glasses around the window are to emphasise it perhaps you would be quite surprised. If in addition you had seen inside the place a kissing competition and you would stay next to the loudspeaker hearing the music, perhaps, and only perhaps, you would be “rather” disappointed. Or not?
Do you understand that for some people a Gothic Cathedral is such a beautiful thing that it didn't need nothing more to be perfect?
Some things are so good as they are that they cannot be improved.
Notre Dame it's a jewel in itself, it don't need Warhol to be different or more mdern. The extra things only get hide the original beautis of the building. A warhol's painting cover the stone sculptures which are one of the most important part on this kind of construction.
The rock music break the atmosphere, the silence and the tranquility typical in cathedrals.
Yes, you have the reason partly, however, when people passed near the church or the cathedral, having heard this extraordinary sounds, maybe they would have come in. And if they hadn´t listened to this music, they wouldn´t have come in and wouldn´t go by without seeing this wonderful work of art like Notre Dame. However, I must say that I consider hideous to cover the main stained-glass window, but I could bear the Warhol exhibition and the Rock and Roll. Maybe I am very avant-garde. When all's said and done, into the church it sounds English rock sometimes, though with religious lyrics. I know it because I sang in the church´s choral... ;)
As far as I am concerned, Eduardo velasco doesn´t have included so many "extras" to alter substantially the Lope´s work, perfect by itself, as you say, but he has wanted to attract attention of other kind of public who usually doesn´t go to the Pavon Theatre. In fact, the other day there was a lot of children en the audience, a fact which is unusual there.
Well, after reading all the coments I want to say that in my opinion the play is quite good and I supposed they have try to modernize the classic play the problem is that may be some people hoped a really classic performance and they have not be able to see the play as a modern one with a touch of classic. I have always opened my mind for new things and I respected all the coments but I liked the play very much.
Mercedes.
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